Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[ktani]

In this study, specific flavonoids were found to protect human cells from hydrogen peroxide damage.

“Protection by the Flavonoids Myricetin, Quercetin, and Rutin Against Hydrogen Peroxide-Induced DNA Damage ….
Flavonoids …. reported to exhibit a wide variety of biological effects, including antioxidant and free radical-scavenging activities.
…. preincubation with the flavonoids before H2O2 exposure significantly ….protected …. cells against H2O2-induced DNA damage.”
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a785829746~db=all


A number of the same flavonoids are found in

honey - contains bee pollen

“Constituents - bee pollen
Antioxidant flavonoids, including myricetin, quercetin, rutin ....”
http://www.botanical.com/products/learn/b/bee_pollen.html


myricetin, quercetin in cinnamon
http://books.google.ca/books?id=xYiuldxozAQC&pg=PA296&lpg=PA296&dq=Myrice tin+cinnamon&source=web&ots=kg1hvpsQqd&sig=z1rmhVA ofPkPOR2QiMqPrXVb3-8&hl=en


myricetin, quercetin in cardamom See "Table 3"
"Major group of antioxidant compounds and their dietary sources"
http://www.japi.org/October2004/R-794.pdf


quercetin in olive oil
"Olive oil.... high in flavonoids including quercetin.”
http://www.daytondailynews.com/health/altmed/shared/health/alt_medicine/ConsSupplements/Quercetincs.html#Dietary


while coconut oil contains gallic acid

“…. tested the Virgin Coconut Oil …. the values for phenolic acid were 13.21 to 13.43 micrograms gallic acid per gram of oil."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/49145.php


which also has cell protective qualities against hydrogen peroxide damage.

“In the Ames test, gallic acid esters showed protective effects against H2O2-induced cytotoxicity ….
…. structure-activity relationship indicates …. similarity of the protective effects of gallic acid esters on the H2O2-induced damages to both bacterial and mammalian cells.”
http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/ind...s&therow=25033


What all of this means IMO, is that honey and plants have built-in protective mechanisms against hydrogen peroxide cell and hair damage.

[morgwn]

Interesting, ktani. Some good info. Though sometimes where you find the time to hunt down all of this info I don't know.

[kimki]

Excellent info ktani.

A number of the same flavonoids are found in

honey - contains bee pollen

“Constituents - bee pollen
Antioxidant flavonoids, including myricetin, quercetin, rutin ....”
http://www.botanical.com/products/le...ee_pollen.html

I wonder if they have found different amounts of flavonoid's in various honey types?

[ktani]

morgyn

Thank you

And so do I, lol.

[ktani]

kimki

Thank you

I am sure that they have IMO, however, as I have said, the reports in all 5 Honey threads, with various kinds of honey used in honey lightening treatments and with different brands of spices and oils used, have 1 thing consistently in common - no hair damage (weak, thin, split, broken, or gummy hair) reported - none, to date.

[kimki]

kimki

Thank you

I am sure that they have IMO, however, as I have said, the reports in all 5 Honey threads, with various kinds of honey used in honey lightening treatments and with different brands of spices and oils used, have 1 thing consistently in common - no hair damage reported - none, to date.

I'm sure as more people try honey, more information on types of honey will be obvious.

For me personally, not only was there no damage. My hair felt better and looked more shiny.

[ktani]

kimki

Thank you for the added information.

I had edited this part in bold as a clarification, before your post, "no hair damage (weak, thin, split, broken, or gummy hair) reported - none, to date." or so I thought.

Sometimes people define damage differently.

The dryness and crunchy ends one can get from honey lightening is a honey residue result - which, as I have said and reports confirm, can easily be resolved with shampooing and or a vinegar rinse, and has no lasting effect on the hair.

Your report of better feeling, shiny hair is consistent with many other reports of the same result.

[ktani]

kimki

The only thing that is a "new" result with different kinds of honey is a report that different honeys leave different amounts of residue and none was reported with one type of honey.
The report
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...&postcount=820

That may have to do with the dilution and recipe used but I believe that it is the honey and I am not really surprised.

Many reports do not mention dryness or a dry ends result from honey lightening and I always ask about the condition of the hair following a treatment.

[kimki]

The different kinds of honey leaving varying amounts of residue would make sense.

Although, like you say this must be affected by dilution and recipe. I have to say, my hair felt very strange when I was trying to wash out the mix that had cinnamon. The only way I can think of to describe it is slimey. I will be trying a mix with cardamon and a little EVOO added later, hopefully that will wash out easier.

[ktani]

kimki

From at least one report, cardamom does wash out easier than cinnamon.

I think that how well a honey lightening treatment washes out depends on the method used too.

Some people have used diluted shampoo, which I think is not as effective as full strengh shampoo for this purpose.

I have also suggested, that CO'ing (washing the hair with conditioner only) the treatment out, might be an option.