Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[Spun]

ktani, I looked for cardamom the other day and oddly couldn't find it any of the spice sections.

I'm not sure how accurate my before and after pictures are going to be. Right before I hopped in the shower it occurred to me I should probably take a picture and ended up just using my phone. Also it was right after I finished a really intense workout so my hair is pretty nasty lol.

Before (nasty workout hair!)


After one treatment (3/4 c distilled water, 2 tbs honey, 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 tbs EVOO)

[socks]

Sorry for the delay in reply. A new semester started up, so I was occupied with the cross-country move.

The second treatment with the correct dilution lightened my hair much more than the first did, even though I left both treatments on for the same amount of time and used cinnamon in the first treatment. My hair was so much lighter that it took me a couple days to get used to the change in color when looking in the mirror. Like the first one, it also left my hair soft and shiny.

I'll try to get pictures soon, but I'll be very busy for the next couple weeks, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to.

[ktani]

ktani, I looked for cardamom the other day and oddly couldn't find it any of the spice sections.

I'm not sure how accurate my before and after pictures are going to be. Right before I hopped in the shower it occurred to me I should probably take a picture and ended up just using my phone. Also it was right after I finished a really intense workout so my hair is pretty nasty lol.

Before (nasty workout hair!)


After one treatment (3/4 c distilled water, 2 tbs honey, 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 tbs EVOO)

Spun

Cardamom has been difficult to find for some people.

I appreciate the effort but I really cannot tell much from either photo.

If you have a good picture of your hair before honey lightening, and can provide a picture in similar lighting as an after picture, that would be great.

How is the condition of your hair and can you see any lightening?

Is it noticable to those around you?

Also please give the exact recipe you used this time, with measurements.

[ktani]

Sorry for the delay in reply. A new semester started up, so I was occupied with the cross-country move.

The second treatment with the correct dilution lightened my hair much more than the first did, even though I left both treatments on for the same amount of time and used cinnamon in the first treatment. My hair was so much lighter that it took me a couple days to get used to the change in color when looking in the mirror. Like the first one, it also left my hair soft and shiny.

I'll try to get pictures soon, but I'll be very busy for the next couple weeks, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to.

socks

No worries.

Thank you for the update.

The 4 to 1 dilution is the key to the new honey lightening recipes being so much more successful, and the correct dilution even more so, as per reports. Distilled water can make a difference too.

I am glad to read that the condition of your hair is good as well and the lightening being so very good this time.

The honey lightening boosters are not necessary for some. Honey can have a much higher peroxide level, but the boosters can aid a honey that has a lower level.

[Spun]

Spun

Also please give the exact recipe you used this time, with measurements.

"After one treatment (3/4 c distilled water, 2 tbs honey, 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 tbs EVOO)"

It's slightly lighter. Very subtle.
It left my hair with lots of shine and it feels super soft.

I don't think I have any clear before photos in the same lighting. I scoured all my archived photos before posting those. That was the best I could find.

The next one will be in the same lighting.

[ktani]

"After one treatment (3/4 c distilled water, 2 tbs honey, 1 tbs cinnamon, 1 tbs EVOO)"

It's slightly lighter. Very subtle.
It left my hair with lots of shine and it feels super soft.

I don't think I have any clear before photos in the same lighting. I scoured all my archived photos before posting those. That was the best I could find.

The next one will be in the same lighting.

Spun

Thank you for the recipe.

I am pleased for you that your hair looks and feels so good.

Did you keep your hair completely wet during the time that the treatment was on your hair?

If the answer is yes, I suggest trying a different honey next time.

the Successful Honeys List
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ount=856itamin

If one cannot be found - try a dark coloured honey blend - raw or pasteurized - both have been reported to work equally well. Dark coloured blends were reported in research, to have higher peroxide levels than lighter coloured blends. A dark coloured, single source honey, does not necessarily have a high peroxide value - it depends on the plant source.

[melikai]

Hi, I'm new here!

I've been growing out my highlighted hair for about a year now - I dyed it for about 10 years! I'm amazed it is still blonde, however now I've started to get some whites/greys too.

Anyways, I'm going to try both cassia and the honey (with either cardamom or cinnamon) treatment. I currently use Klorane's camomile shampoo, which I love, but not sure how much lightening/brightening it does.

I've taken some before pictures and will be sure to post those with the 'afters' on here and the cassia thread!

As well - I'm going to do a strand test, but does anyone know if I should first try the honey or the cassia, or does the order matter?

Thanks and glad to be here - what a great resource!

[ktani]

Hi, I'm new here!

I've been growing out my highlighted hair for about a year now - I dyed it for about 10 years! I'm amazed it is still blonde, however now I've started to get some whites/greys too.

Anyways, I'm going to try both cassia and the honey (with either cardamom or cinnamon) treatment. I currently use Klorane's camomile shampoo, which I love, but not sure how much lightening/brightening it does.

I've taken some before pictures and will be sure to post those with the 'afters' on here and the cassia thread!

As well - I'm going to do a strand test, but does anyone know if I should first try the honey or the cassia, or does the order matter?

Thanks and glad to be here - what a great resource!

melikai

Welcome to LHC and Honey!

You can actually do both at the same time! This recipe worked beautifully for 2 people who reported. The key is to add the cassia just before you apply the treatment and mix it only with a bit of water first, not let it sit for dye release or mix any acid with it (distilled water is now recommended). Also the dilution needs to be corrected - for a 1/4 cup of honey use 1 1/2 cups distilled water, for 1/8 cup honey use 3/4 cup distilled water. It is more of a honey lightening treatment with cassia, than a cassia treatment but according to the reports, you should get the conditiong of the cassia too.

firebird on a cassia treatment that had darkened her hair - 4 to 1 dilution - with ground cinnamon and EVOO, no conditioner
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...&postcount=489

morgwn - on virgin hair with cassia - after using firebird's new honey lightening recipe with cassia, ground cinnamon and EVOO - the 4 to 1 dilution - no conditioner
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1097

morgwn - on the condition of her hair following honey lightening with cassia
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1101

[socks]

Pictures of honey lightening with just honey and water

kokuryu - on virgin, mid-blonde hair - using only tap water and honey, unmeasured - after 3 treatments
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1799

kokuryu - on the condition of her hair after 3 treatments
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1801

HalcyonDays - on dark mid-brown virgin hair - with the correct 4 to 1 dilution using tap water - after 1 treatment - left on the hair for 2 hours - just water and honey. The lighting is dark in the before picture, so I requested a replacement picture.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1633

HalcyonDays - on the condition of her hair following honey lightening and a replacement before picture
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1635

Alley Cat - on chemically dyed, almost black, previously hennaed hair (which shows as red) - 4 to 1 dilution - after 9 treatments - 8 with no conditioner - 3 with ground cinnamon - the last 5 with just water and honey, the 3 most recent with distilled water and the correct 4 to 1 dilution
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1492

Aley Cat - on the condition of her hair following honey lightening
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1495

Alley Cat - more on the condition of her hair following her 9th honey lightening treatment - with Jarrah honey, which has a very high peroxide value
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1596

Wow. Kokuryu's results were really incredible. I'd like to try a few more treatments to try to lighten my hair down to a true blonde from its current ashy blondish-brown, but I probably won't get the chance to do more treatments until after Christmas.

[ktani]

Wow. Kokuryu's results were really incredible. I'd like to try a few more treatments to try to lighten my hair down to a true blonde from its current ashy blondish-brown, but I probably won't get the chance to do more treatments until after Christmas.

socks

A number of reported results are incredible to me.

Check out these 2, from brown to blonde - bypassing red. With only honey and distilled water, a treatment should be easier to do - less fussing, IMO.

Jan in ID - on mid-brown virgin hair - with the 4 to 1 dilution using distilled water - after 2 treatments - with ground cinnamon and booster oils - no conditioner and the condition of her hair following honey lightening
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1299

Jan in ID - on mid-brown virgin hair - with the corrected 4 to 1 dilution and distilled water - after 3 more treatments - with ground cinnamon and only 1/2 tblsp EVOO, no conditioner and the conditioner of her hair, after 5 treaments
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1721

HalcyonDays - on dark mid-brown virgin hair - with the correct 4 to 1 dilution using tap water - after 1 treatment - left on the hair for 2 hours - just water and honey. The lighting is dark in the before picture, so I requested a replacement picture.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1633

HalcyonDays - on the condition of her hair following honey lightening and a replacement before picture
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1635